New Disney Theme Park in FL?

[d43boy]

Hi All,
I am totally new here, have been lurking for quite a while, but had a question I have been dying ot ask. Please forgive me if it has already been asked, but last time I was at Disney, (this past summer) I was told by a local Floridian that Disney was planning a new park. It would be themed after the Disney Villians, and would be more of a thrill park, with more coasters and such.
Anyone heard anything of this??

Thanks!

:)

[JuniorMickey]

I haven't heard anything like this, but that doesn't mean that the idea doesn't exist :D

[BevW]

Now THAT would be a cool park! Hope it's a fact.

[ukwdwnut]

hi d43boy

:welcome: to our little corner of the magic, have fun posting, look forward to "talking" to you soon

hope this is fact as it would be brillaint to have a park with more coasters :D and the theming would be :cool: too

[OKWTink]

Rumours abound. As neat as the park sounds, I've not heard a peep about another being planned. Not to say that it isn't mind, just to say that it hasn't been announced in any official capacity. Until that happens, it's just rumour. Entertaining as it may be! :D :ears:

[kiltedwarrior]

There are rumours going about quite alot about Disney adding a new park and who knows wether there may or may not be any truth to them. One thing for sure is that it wont be any time soon unfortunately. :(

[dizzyknee]

Yes I too have heard this same rumour. Don't remember where I read it but I did 'hear' coaster park.

[jimfortk]

If this IS true, they need to contact Mondo1748 to provide ideas. If its NOT true, Mondo probably started the rumor.

[Eeyore1974]

If this IS true, they need to contact Mondo1748 to provide ideas. If its NOT true, Mondo probably started the rumor.
Mondo does have some great ideas for rides and such!
This sounds really neat and would certainly draw crowds. I know there are a lot of villian fans out there.

[candyman]

Mondo does have some great ideas for rides and such!
This sounds really neat and would certainly draw crowds. I know there are a lot of villian fans out there.

i must be strange i hate the villains
steve

[jimfortk]

I love to hate the villains.

Chip and Dale are the worst villains. Always being mean to Donald Duck, raiding his garden, stealing his veggies. Those cute smiles don't fool me. Smiling villains are still villains (boo, hiss!)

[SorcererMickey]

i must be strange i hate the villains
steve

Exactly!

That's why they are villains, they carry the weight of almost every fairy tale. Without the villain there is no conflict, without conflict there is no unlikely hero, without an unlikely hero there is nobody to feel for and therefore no story...

The villain's job is to help bring to the surface the hero that the simple boy, young prince or outcast didn't know he/she had inside, giving us somebody to cheer for...

[d43boy]

Hi all!
Thanks for all your replies!
The guy that told us said it would be a long time before that park is even announced, but hey, could be just a rumour. Thanks for your thoughts and making a newbie feel welcomed!

[marivigi]

I had heard about this... and it was on this site

Someone had mentioned it before...

But like everyone said, it was just a rumour.... but it would be sooo cool!

[mondo1748]

I would rather them hold on doing a new park and divert all there energy to making the existing ones better. Update rides paint clean and add new rides to them all. MGM and AK are really lacking in enough rides.

[loocpoc]

The only new park I even heard of was announced last year. It was a waterpark owned and operated by Ron Jons surf shop.

[Chris/Lisa]

I would rather them hold on doing a new park and divert all there energy to making the existing ones better. Update rides paint clean and add new rides to them all. MGM and AK are really lacking in enough rides.


:iagree: totally agree with this mondo.

Shouldn't spread themselves too thin.

[joanne]

It would be a great idea. But that rumour, along with many others (Disney Seas, Disney's Florida, etc) have been around for years.

[gu_angel]

I heard this rumor too and I also heard that the park would be located somewhere closer to the MK, like up behind that park I guess. I just didnt care for the idea of a roller coaster park, like they are trying to be like Universal then with their Islands of Adventure, you know? I always admired Disney for their ability to have a healthy mix of fast and slow rides so everyone has something to ride, but if they make a roller coaster park well I dont think it would be that great of an idea for families.

[d_dreamer]

I also heard tis rumor b4. New pakrks are always welcomed!

[Bec]

Yeah definately, my fave villain is Malificent I can see a huge black and purple coaster in honour of her nastiness!!!

[Musicmixer]

:( I totally agree with a few others that a true coaster park would NOT be the best idea for Disney's visitors. (I truly feel that Walt would totally agree also) I also agree that while a new park may sound interesting, the better use of that money would be to refurbish the rides and attractions in the four existing parks. Also more rides and attractions could be added to the existing parks as well. (maybe even some villian coaster rides) I also agree 100% that the true experience of Disney is not the thrill of a coaster, but the thrill people get when they walk through the gates of the HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH !!! :)

[candyman]

100% agree
steve

[ukwdwnut]

have to agree on this one too, a park without the disney magic would not be disney

[bkadillac]

With Michael Eisner leaving I'm not sure he is going to approve anything of great magnitude on his watch.(new park-big rides-new lands at existing parks)I hope I am wrong but I think they won't even put anything at the 20k lagoon.A couple kiddie rides is what I heard.

[mondo1748]

While I still stand by my belief that more rides and updated attraction need to be put in at existing parks, I still can't sell off the idea of a thrill ride park. I keep hearing the age old "Walt wouldn't want that" or "Walt wanted a family park and this isn't a family park".....

1. Please stop taking his words out of context. When he stated that famous phrase he was refering to a park with merry-go rounds and something to kiddish that the parents had no interest in doing. Example, parents woundn't get in a little boat ride that makes a sound as it circles a 20ft diameter water ring, or a little 1 1/2 gauge riding train that pulls 5 kids. This is his thinking. He merrly said a place were the children and parents can have fun together. I have read many posts on this site to date, and they all slant to the side of every ride needs to be constructed for a family. The idea is that the Parks and Resort as a whole has something for everyone.....not every ride is made that way.

2. We also assume that all adults with kids hate thrill rides. I have parents that love them along with friends that have kids and love them. They would get short changed by this thinking of no-thrill rides.

3. We also look only at small kids in a family when we say no thrill rides. We always ignore the hardest age groups for Disney to obtain, teenagers. They're in these families to that visit, and if they don't have enough for them, the family is not being catered to. Remember this age group has the ability to ruin a vacation very easily.

4. Disney's current mix of attractions has been to low over the years. We are at about a 85% kids to 15% adults.....I think they need 70% kids, 30% adults instead. I suggest they do this by not taking out more kids rides, but by building new adult ones. Also like it or not, they are a business, and by that they need to address the loss of market share to Universal. I know what you all are saying right now....They don't need to be Universal....Your right and Wrong.....I agree they don't need to be low detailed, dirty, low themed and superficila rides.....But I do believe that they need to bring the people back that they are losing to Universal....Look at it this way....Disney has say 1,000 people each day decide to take a single day of there vacation and go to Universal....Thats 1,000 people X $52 Disney losses for each and everyday not including expenses in the park (food, gifts, and so on). So $52,000 X 365 days a year that's just short of $19 million (a new ride I like to see it as). Say that the numbers are superficial all you want, the fact is I know a close knit group of friends that take one to 2 day now to visit Universal and I've met people galor that go at least one day. So in all reality its probably more money but for sample sake only I used at least a thousand (daily average over the course of a year). If you do just 100 people it would be short of 2 million a year.

5. The thrill rides speak....If they were not wanted by guests then R'nR, ToT, TT, SM, BTM, and so on would never have a line or rank in the must see category.

6. It was best put to me like this as well....an adrenilin rush can keep producing that sensation of excitment....on the other hand a slow ride that you've gone on a lot can't produce that same rush feeling of excitment. While it might bring a smile to your face it is proven to not bring you that same sense of satisfaction as an adrenilin pushing ride.

Do I think an all Thrill ride park is needed NO....But one park that is 70% adult and 30% kids would be a good idea. This would address adventure seeking adults and teenagers as well as have kid things to do. If we keep down this kid course any longer we risk losing more people to Universal. Also how many more Dumbo style rides can we stand (Dumbo, Astro Rockets, Magic Carpets, Triceritops Spin). I'm not saying get thrill rides that all push the envelope of physical tolerance,a few more Space Mountian type rides , few hard pushing ones and a mix of other thrill rides is great for me.

[JuniorMickey]

I have to agree Mondo. I love thrill rides and when I want one, I need to go to IOA because other than TOT and RnRC, Disney does not have it. I do not consider BTMRR or SM to be trill rides. I was stuff dropping me, twisting me, looping me.... all that good stuff.

On the other hand. I love being a kid and doing "kids" rides. I LOVE Peter Pan and Snow White and Dumbo. There just needs to be a better mix

[Chris/Lisa]

:iagree: fully agree once more mondo :D

Having been to pot aventura recently (universal spain) i was blown away by both the mix and number of attractions cf Disney.

But i suppose more rides means more staff and maintenance which = $, so there in a nutshell is your answer

[marivigi]

Mondo, that is a very good analysis, and as most here, I agree with you.

I believe 1 or 2 more good thrill rides per park would do the trick... of course, more would be brilliant, more at least having 2 more at each park...

[Kitten]

I acctualy believe that having a few more thrill rides in Disney would generate more $$. I know quite a few people aged between 19-30 with no kids, but who spend their vacation in Orlando, they go to Disney because how can anyone go to Orlando and not do Disney? But then they will spend a few days at Universal and IOA, because they want the thrill rides, and the shows that appeal more to adults.

3 of my happiest disney memories involve disney "thrill rides" going on the tower of terror with my mum and dad, even though my mum was scared senseless, but she went on it so she could say she faced a fear......... going on the rocking roller coaster with my mum, she was scared senseless again, but she didn't want me to have to wait in line by myself, and Test track, a ride that had my whole family smiling, even my little sister.

I am sure that other familys with teenagers would agree that the thrill rides are a big part of the vacation, and a few more could possibly add to the magic.

I truly believe that a lot of the magic of Disney, is families spending time together.

[Bosox]

Disney could do something really special with an idea like this. While I agree that it may not need to be an entirely new park, they do need to add more real thrill rides that include world class coasters. Disney should run with the villains idea and build a new land at MGM. I know this may not go over well on this board but if you stack up the ride line up from Universal and WDW, Universal wins hands down. RnR vs. Hulk Star Tours vs. Back to the Future Pooh vs. Cat in the Hat not to mention that Disney has no answer to Spiderman. The good news is that Disney seems to understand the situation and is planning to do something about it i.e. Expedition Everest.

[mondo1748]

I've seen that line up too BOSOX....It is a sad comparison right? Its like 2 Battleships pulling broadside to each other....Universal is busy fire all there guns....while Disney is still looking back in history at itself saying, Remember when we roamed the ocean alone. In the mean time Universal keeps the guns blazing (ride building and changing) while Disney says we can remind people of the times they once had (metaphorically speaking-Looking were to fire and refusing to acknowledge the danger).... So now that Disney has been hit and damaged the once "Man of War" to be recond with on the ocean, they said hey lets start repairing the damage. I'm waiting for Disney to open up the Guns still. Universal went for broke knowing what they had to deal with. They exposed the soft armor they carry (Superficially detailed rides in a lacking park environment that lacks cleaning and control) and just got in close to start the firing. A captian for Disney's Ship needs to be willing to fire the broadside to show the world how weak the Universal flagship is. Thiswill entail more then one ride....this means bringing the basics back and building the future and not shorting guests on hours and events. Time to unload the 16" guns firing a full broadside and sink the Universal ship

The metaphor was just me with extra time on my hands. :D

[Bosox]

I think that Universal's themeing stands up very well against Disney. You have to concede that its harder to theme a coaster like the Hulk and Dueling Dragons than a dark ride. Granted I've only visited US/IOA on one trip, but I found the park very clean, well run, and the staff was great. Competition is good for theme parks just like it is for everything else and I think that Disney is going to be forced to build more thrill rides.