Please Help!!!!!!!!!

[ukwdwnut]

Hi all

i am having difficulties in getting my digi camcorder video's on to my pc in a high quality to burn to a dvd, its coming out all pixalated, ive got the resolution on my camera set to highest and am using ulead video studio 8 to burn to dvd, i also didnt think mt dvd player in the front room would play them but it does :woohoo: but it looks real cr***y.

i could do with some help on this one, as its my first time at doing it

thank ya'all

:D

[JacksDad]

The camera may be outputting it's best quality but is Ulead set to digitize with the best codec?

[ukwdwnut]

hi jd :confused:

this is the setting after i start getting into the burn cycle

MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 576, 25 fps
Frame-based
(DVD-PAL), 4:3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48 KHz, Stereo

[JacksDad]

Good burn settings.
Can you view the video on the computer before the burn?
How are you putting the video into the puter?
I think the settings are too low as the computer is copying the video from your camera.

[ukwdwnut]

Good burn settings.
Can you view the video on the computer before the burn?
How are you putting the video into the puter?
I think the settings are too low as the computer is copying the video from your camera.

1/ yes i can
2/ via usb 2
3/ that the highest i can get it or do you mean frame rate?

just trying another method via easy cd creator 6 dvd builder :D

[JacksDad]

Good.
The video looks fine on computer playback.
Frame rate is fine. If you could push it to 29.9 all the better.
Try that new burn and I'll get back to you.

[Babymischief]

*SQUEAKS*! A whole new language to me!

[BevW]

I understand it, I just use my daughter's video camera software! :lol:

Hope it's working Mike!

[JacksDad]

Try this.

WinDV (http://windv.mourek.cz/)

Install it and use it to capture DV from your cam. You can set it to capture Type 1 or Type 2 AVIs...if you are using Windows Movie Maker, capture as Type 1. Most other video editing software uses Type 2 AVIs. If you are having problems after that, something may be wrong with the codecs your are using to view the file or something is wrong with your video display.

Fire wire is the best way to capture video. Maybe WinDV will give a better USB capture.

Close your ears now, BM.

[BevW]

:lmao: :lmao:

[ukwdwnut]

*SQUEAKS*! A whole new language to me!

you have trouble with english BM :lol:

[BevW]

:lmao: :lol:

[JacksDad]

I should have been more specific.
Is the pixleation coming from your computer dvd or the tele's dvd?

[ukwdwnut]

i'll let ya know in a tick, cant do anything whilst its burning

[JacksDad]

Take your time. I'm just opening Christmas cards. http://www.wdisneyw.com/ubb/eek.gif

[Keith]

Does the camcorder have firewire/ilink as well as usb2 or just usb2? often lower res output goes through usb2 for quick movies and proper output only goes through the firewire port (of course, if it only has usb2 like some of the new ones then ok.. just trying to think of options <G>)

[ukwdwnut]

Does the camcorder have firewire/ilink as well as usb2 or just usb2? often lower res output goes through usb2 for quick movies and proper output only goes through the firewire port (of course, if it only has usb2 like some of the new ones then ok.. just trying to think of options <G>)

now come on keith you should know this camera :lol:

nope has firewire and usb2 :D

me thinks it time to go buy a f/w card, whats best, know nothing about them really, not done me homework

[Keith]

now come on keith you should know this camera :lol:

nope has firewire and usb2 :D

me thinks it time to go buy a f/w card, whats best, know nothing about them really, not done me homework

oh you know me, if it didn't happen less than a minute ago, I've forgotten the details <G>

yeah try fw... I know its stupid but sometimes that's just what it is :/

[JacksDad]

FireWire is a pretty starightforward connection like a network card. Any of the recognizable names will do.

[ukwdwnut]

is there more than one standard or just the one? is what i meant sorry JD :D

i know there are different cables for different devices

[Keith]

there's ilink which is sonys name for firewire... interchangeable.
There's small fw connectors and large (check whats on your camera, probably small and whats on the card you buy and then buy a suitable cable)
there's also fw400 and fw800 your camera will prob be fw400

[JacksDad]

IEEE-1394 is the standard in the US.
I believe UK uses the same.

[Keith]

it does indeed

[arcamalpha2003]

you have trouble with english BM :lol:

Have to agree with you nut, unless its botoxolese :rotfl:

Bill.

[ukwdwnut]

there's ilink which is sonys name for firewire... interchangeable.
There's small fw connectors and large (check whats on your camera, probably small and whats on the card you buy and then buy a suitable cable)
there's also fw400 and fw800 your camera will prob be fw400

will look in the manual, and buy a card to suit, or should i just get the 800, will the camera work like usb 1.1 and 2 does, but just work at the slower rate

thanks for the help guys

just an update ive burnt some of the holiday onto a dvd-rw and it looks a bit jerky, like when i use v/studio 8 in mpeg mode it looks jerky, but when i transfer in avi format its not. any ideas, i know the burning s/w encodes the video whilst burning(only cos i said so) :lol: whats the best format to transfer in mpeg or avi?

[JacksDad]

Def on the avi.
An 800 FireWire should step down to 400 if need be.
That's it. You were not getting a clean capture.
Always AVI and highest quality. Then back up the AVI on a DVD data disc.

[ukwdwnut]

cheers mate :D im just gonna go down and try the latest burn then i'll try the avi format

[ukwdwnut]

that last burn was horendous just copying some more in avi format :D

[dcfromva]

ukwdwnut,
I haven't done any DVD's since last year. I ran into all sorts of trouble with huge file sizes. And, the .avi format only recorded about 20mins worth of movie on a 4.7gb DVD. How are you doing on yours?

Last year, the buzz word was DIVX (http://www.divx.com/divx/) as the file compression system of the future. I haven't bothered to see how that is coming along. I haven't used it, yet--so, I can't give you any testimonals on it. I used Roxio Easy DVD creator and it wasn't too bad, although I found it pretty time consuming trying to the edits and what have you.

( I believe a terrabyte of storage is what I need to get all my video in one place... Have you seen any good deals on external hard drive storage? :D )

-DC :ears:

[ukwdwnut]

i did hear that nero express v6, would compress down to almost nothing, thats what i was told anyway. would also like to know how/what s/w you need to convert to quicktime too please, any thoughts. :D

did ask jo once but she never let on what s/w just said there is converters out there :cry: :lol:

dc i'm using easy cd creator 6, i have 7 also gonna load that later and have a crack at it, also used ulead videostudio 8 too, which is pretty good for effect and audio etc, but i just cant get a good quality using usb2, so a firewire card is called for me thinks :D

[dcfromva]

which is pretty good for effect and audio etc, but i just cant get a good quality using usb2, so a firewire card is called for me thinks

I'm surprised that it would make any difference. I thought that usb2/firewire was just a means to transfer data.

I can tell you that you don't want to use usb1 (from personal experience... something like 2 hours to transfer a file on usb1 versus 10 mins on usb2...this was because my drivers for usb2 got messed up and somehow it defaulted to usb1...'til I got on the phone with Dell service to get it fixed... Another one of those frustrating speed bumps on the way to making movies! :lol: :lol: ) :D . Have they made improvements on the speed of the data transfer on firewire? Last year when I was making dvds, I thought my usb2 was running faster than firewire.



-DC :ears:

[Keith]

usb was never really designed as a fast file transfer mechanism, it was designed to be a trouble free, plug and play replacement for parellel/serial/keyboard/mouse ports which are all pretty slow. Of course as time went on, usb was so simple to use it was a big hit and all sorts of devices appeared. Firewire still feels better to me when transferring large files. The system doesn't seem to slow as much and even though usb2 in theory is up there with firewire400 in terms of theoretical speed, in practice fw still seems better to me (although I have a usb2 card reader which seems amazingly fast).

It definitely was the case that some camcorders only used usb as a fast and simple way to transfer stills and "small" video clips. There's no reason for that now with usb2 really, but apparently it's still the case on some camcorders.

They have made speed advances on firewire... just as there's usb2, there's now firewire800 which is twice as fast as firewire400 and is probably the fastest transfer you'll get.. until the next standard emerges of course :)

[dcfromva]

Keith,
In order to run FW800, is it like upgrading to USB2...Do you have to have the device that is rated for it (camera), the actual cable that is capable of the data transfer speeds and then the card that interfaces with the computer along with the drivers that run it?

Or, can you just plug another card with drivers into your computer and away you go?

-DC :ears:

[ukwdwnut]

keith, just had a look at the manual and i wont need a fw 800 card which is £40 odd as the camera wont use the speed, so im gonna for a fw400 card and appropriate cable

[JacksDad]

The device has to capable of 800.
Then, yes, after that it's usb2.
Keith's right about usb. It's an abused option.
Firewire is much cleaner.
Nuts issue is that video is so data intensive usb can't handle the large transfer.

[ukwdwnut]

when i get the card and burn some video i'll let ya know how it goes, thanks for all the advice guys :clap: :clap: :D

[dcfromva]

ukwdwnut,
I was wondering how you were doing with your movies...

-DC :ears:

[Keith]

good lucky nutty :) Ive seen firewire fix more than its fair share of such problems so I've got my fingers crossed.

Hardly anything uses fw800 yet.. eventually the prices will come down but yeah there's still a premium at the mo.

[ukwdwnut]

ukwdwnut,
I was wondering how you were doing with your movies...

-DC :ears:

no luck as yet dc on the quality front, gonna go buy a firewire card to see if that sorts it out :D

[ukwdwnut]

good lucky nutty :) Ive seen firewire fix more than its fair share of such problems so I've got my fingers crossed.

Hardly anything uses fw800 yet.. eventually the prices will come down but yeah there's still a premium at the mo.

thanks keith, no point in getting the 800 card as i wont have anything that will use it, would not mind paying double what the 400 card costs but not quadruple, thats just taking the p :D

[ukwdwnut]

:woohoo: i've sussed out how to get my wdw video to play thru quicktime, i used the software that came with the b****y camera instead of the ulead one :lol:

at least i can get them onto a website now, thats the next project

[BevW]

Yah!!! Good for you! Was is something I said? :lmao:

So, lemme see the movies!

[ukwdwnut]

well i cant email them to you as they are too biug, so im gonna have to build a website to do that bev, as joanne does here. so how much time have you got :lol:
i wonder if image shack host moview as well, im sure some one posted their home movie on to here a while back and everyone was raving about it,

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEITH :D

[BevW]

:lmao: I've got 2 weeks coming up dude! All the time in the world. I forgot it's not the little movie clips..it's video...I love your movie clips!

[ukwdwnut]

:woohoo:

i bought meself a firewire card today, and it gave me a lot more options to choose from in the editing software, inc the dv option so i burn't a short clip to a dvd and bingo the quality on the tv looks superb so now i can start editing our holiday movie and dump it onto a dvd to watch and also do a copy for for nephew who is so looking forward to seeing it again :D

so keith you was right cheers, dont ya just hate a smart a**e :lol: :lol:

[ukwdwnut]

keith

i bought 100 dvd-r's put some footage on one and me dvd player downstairs dont like em :cry: looks like a trip to the sony store is in need :D

[BevW]

Does your DVD player play DVD+r's?

[ukwdwnut]

Does your DVD player play DVD+r's?

dunno aint got nun of those probably not, its a sony and about 4 yrs old and they were notorious for not playing stuff then, saw a nice slimline sony last night for £79 and it play anything you wanna chuck in it :woohoo: :D i can see what else denise is gonna buy me for chrimbo :lol:

[BevW]

I'm with you Nut! Any new techie thing sounds wonderful! :lol:

[ukwdwnut]

not bad for a good brand name i thought :D

[arcamalpha2003]

Mikey, dont wanna insult your wiseness, but can I ask if you finalised the dvd-r before trying to play it in your player? if you did I humbly ask your forgiveness :hehe:

Thing is, with my panny, the disc is finalised on the panny, this then makes it a normal dvd, what is normal hey? :lol:
Then it plays or is said to play on most dvd players, it certainly plays on my lads playstation 2, so I am presuming it will play on other dvd players.
Thing is, when dvd players first came out, they were fussy which discs they would play, but the other day, saturday in fact, was in town shopping and noticed a dvd player for about £80 which claimed to play a host of dvd formats including dvd-r's.
Hope you get sorted mate.

Bill.

[ukwdwnut]

mmmmmmmm thats a thought, i was waiting to see if anyone would pick up on the deliberate mistake :lol: will have to see if there is a check box in the ulead package i'm using, have not seen it so far though, cheers mate :D