Reclining Seats on planes

[Melfuzz]

I was wondering are we within our rights to recline our seats on planes when the seat belt sign has gone off.

The reason I was asking is that a few years ago I went on a longhall flight I was unlucky enough to sit in front of a very very large American women (she had to have an extra seat belt). I spent hours waiting for her to get up as my seat wouldnt move. Once she did she couldnt get back in so I had to put it back up and be uncomfortable for the whole flight. I was a teenager then and spent the rest of the flight muttering loudly about it (wouldnt get away with that now!)

Question is if it happens again what should I do? I am not against large people at all but I am a very nervous traveller and need everything just right and comfort is important.

Is it reasonable to ask to sit somewhere else?

I miss being a kid, I remember when I was around 10 a guy with really bad body oder sat next to me. I spent the whole flight telling my older brother how disgusting the guy smelt (it really was awful in a confined space). He eventually said a few words to a flight attendent and she moved him (Result!!). Just in case you were wondering I wasnt a rude kid I just didnt think before I spoke still have that problem a little bit but have got so much better.

[bawden2]

You have every right to ask to be moved. You may have a problem of course if the flight is full. I would of thought you also had the right to recline your seat. I will need to recline my daughters as she is not able to sit and with the aid of cusions and seat reclined then she should be fine.
I remember in 2004 we flew Ba to New York. When we returned to U.K with them the guy next to me stunk of b.o. I asked to switch my seat and they moved my friend and myself.:eek:

[Melfuzz]

ah it seems a common problem then!

I dont like being so fussy but when its a long flight it does become an issue.

[Catherine]

We had a huge man on our return flight from Orlando one year, we had upgraded to PE but beleive me he needed Upper class seats. The guy behing him had great problems, he was so huge that when he sat the seat must have gone so forward he could not watch his tv. WE could see from our seats, the poor guy would have been better off in economy. I also did feel for the big guy, how must he have felt and how embarresed.

:rolleyes:

[Keith]

It's an awkward situation :(

A few flights back I had a seat which reclined on its own! soon as I leant back, it reclined. Anyway I tried sitting there not putting any weight on it, but of course over time it kept inching back. The woman behind made a load of snotty comments to her friend, then called one of the air stewardesses over and complained.. naturally she was told there was nothing they could do. By that time I'd decided I'd had enough and just reclined it anyway.

I think there's just got to be some give and take really. It's SO hard to eat dinner if the seat in front has reclined, so it seems reasonable to me that people put the seat back for meals.

Equally all the people who moan about the person in front reclining their seat, well tough! They paid for the flight, part of the service is the seat that reclines and they're choosing to use it.

Is it an absolute right? well I'm not sure what you could really do if there was someone behind you that was too large to let you recline and there were no other seats on the plane to move to... but I'm sure if there WERE free seats, they'd let you move!

[Catherine]

Reclining is such a sensitive issue, we have never had any concerns on either way, however we have seen folks who have. On a day flight i would assume people dont recline however you cant be sure. We are off to the Caribbean this year and next and will return to Orlando in 07 and will upgrade to PE or maybe UC to try to eradicate this.

[Keith]

Reclining is such a sensitive issue, we have never had any concerns on either way, however we have seen folks who have. On a day flight i would assume people dont recline however you cant be sure. We are off to the Caribbean this year and next and will return to Orlando in 07 and will upgrade to PE or maybe UC to try to eradicate this.

It's weird how sensitive it is isnt it? :/

I have to admit, I've reclined on a day flight to get some sleep

You're right though, PE/UC is a great way round the problem :)

[triciacarole]

It's an awkward situation :(

A few flights back I had a seat which reclined on its own!

I had that one on take off from MAN it was quiet funny as my seat slipped into recline :)

[Melfuzz]

problem is its a lot of extra money

[Keith]

I had that one on take off from MAN it was quiet funny as my seat slipped into recline :)

YES that's the one!!!!!!!!!!!!! left hand side of the plane by the window (or mine was anyway :lol: )

[Catherine]

I agree it is quite a lot of money but well spent:wink:

[Melfuzz]

If you have a huge mortgage its a little hard though

[Catherine]

I agree, :( you will have a great time might see ya there.

[Melfuzz]

ah yes you are going around the same time.

Fingers crossed for good weather.

[susieh]

My husband insists on reclining his seat all the way back as soon as he can (ie flight allows it) and leaving it there. He doesn't eat on the plane so it stays there for meal times.

I find it really really embarassing and feel so sorry for the people behind him - I think he is totally selfish on the matter - but starting my holiday with a major row with him about it does not help me either (believe me I have tried that one!)

Fortunately we've been lucky enough to manage to book UC next June so it won't be a problem. And for me that is one more reason to do so.

[mickeyk]

i personally dont recline my seat on flights but thats because i find it uncomfortable whatever i do, i do have a problem with being behind someone who insists on theirs being permanatly reclined, it affects everything from the seatback tv to the conversation you may be having, i also have a problem with people invading my personal space for such a long time, however i would never say anything because that person has paid for the seat just like the next person its all part of the process. what i have a problem with more and this time i do say something is people adults and children kicking the back of my seat (dont get me started, long flight to oz annoying child behind, you get the picture?!)

[Keith]

what i have a problem with more and this time i do say something is people adults and children kicking the back of my seat (dont get me started, long flight to oz annoying child behind, you get the picture?!)

get the picture, have the t-shirt etc :(

There was a thread about seat reclining on another forum which shall remain nameless, where ignorant parents were actually saying that they encouraged their little darlings to kick the seat in front of them if they DARED recline in order to make the trip miserable.

[triciacarole]

I once had a man in front of me who reclined, he was bald, had burnt his head in the sun and it had all started to scab over, not a pretty sight :afraid:

[katie]

I don't mind the person in front reclining on me but when they recline on my DH - he is practically knee-capped due to his very long legs - even in Premium economy. I hate it when the kid behind kicks the back of my seat, but I have found that MOST parents try and curtail this. It also happens in PE as there still isn't sufficient room for people to sit comfortably for 8-9 hours. On the whole, it is not the fault of the person reclining or the kid kicking the seats - this is perfectly normal behaviour but there just isn't enough room in our aircraft. When I watch Airline USA on ITV2 it is obvious that we in the UK are being short-changed by our Airline companies. The amount of room between the seats in Southwestern Airlines seems enormous compared to ours - even in economy. Rant over.

Katie :)

[Melfuzz]

It is true they treat us like cattle.

I would have gone by an American airline if they went direct.

[ukwdwnut]

i always recline if i want to, not fully all tha flight tho, and not at meal times obviously. if someone in front of me has reclined i will to to get some space back :D

[triciacarole]

i always recline if i want to, not fully all tha flight tho, and not at meal times obviously. if someone in front of me has reclined i will to to get some space back :D

You are not the man with the scabby head are you? :D

[Melfuzz]

ewwww

[PaulaK]

I recline and if someone reclines in front of me, I don't bother, they paid for their seat, they can do what they want in it. You are not supposed to recline during meals though and if someone in front of me doesn't automatically put the seat upright, I would ask the cabin crew to tell them. :shrug:

[ukwdwnut]

You are not the man with the scabby head are you? :D


dont think so, the last time i looked i had hair :lol:

[ukwdwnut]

I recline and if someone reclines in front of me, I don't bother, they paid for their seat, they can do what they want in it. You are not supposed to recline during meals though and if someone in front of me doesn't automatically put the seat upright, I would ask the cabin crew to tell them. :shrug:

i agree with that, you cannot stop anyone from reclinig as you say paula they/you pay for the seat, very naughty to keep reclined position at mealtimes, i would do the same as you ask CC to ask them :D

if everyone reclines thete is no problem :lol:

[Vikki]

I recline if the person in front does to be honest. However, I always put it back for meals. I think if there was a reclined seat in front during the meal I would politely ask them to put it back just for the duration fo the meal. I remember when I was younger on flights to the med and such, that all custmers were asked to put their seats upright during meals.
We are hoping to fly PE next year.....so hope this might be a bit more comfortable :)

[mrs disney]

Ill be honest, I hate folk who recline their seats, however Im willing to grin and bear it. Unfortunately thats the way things are on most economy flights..everyone fighting for every inch of space.

However having been on the receiving end of a couple of good smacks on the knee by the frame of the chair in front, I especially resent those passengers who feel they have to throw their chair into the reclined postion with no warning. :angry: :yell: :tantrum: :tut: :tut:

Sure if you want to recline go ahead, but its just good manners to do a slow gentle recline...Anything else just increases resentment, and earns the offending passenger a good few shoogles on the back of the seat as I sqeeze in and out.....:oops: which I will do A LOT, esp if they are asleep!!!!:D :evil: :naughty:

I think a little consideration goes a long way!!!! :whistle: :D

[ukwdwnut]

for me its not a case of fighting for every inch of space its just i cannot sit in a bolt upright postion for the entire journey, i try to be as considerate as i can for the peeps behind me :D

[katie]

I must admit that I need to change position quite frequently due to a severe spinal injury, unsuccessful surgery and subsequent nerve pain in my neck, back and bilateral sciatica. However, I can still manage not to be inconsiderate to others and move gently and carefully (it hurts too much otherwise) so as not to jolt my seat and disturb the person behind me. I think that is all it takes - to act the way you want others to act - with consideration and respect.

Katie :)

[ukwdwnut]

I must admit that I need to change position quite frequently due to a severe spinal injury, unsuccessful surgery and subsequent nerve pain in my neck, back and bilateral sciatica. However, I can still manage not to be inconsiderate to others and move gently and carefully (it hurts too much otherwise) so as not to jolt my seat and disturb the person behind me. I think that is all it takes - to act the way you want others to act - with consideration and respect.

Katie :)

got in in one katie, thats all it takes :D

[Melfuzz]

Thats the thing people have to understand that if the seat goes back then it has a right to be put back. Both parties should try and be civil and considerate of each others feelings.

I know if someone was hostile to me it would be all to easy to shout back and end up with a really unpleasent flight.

[benjones70]

I never recline my seat on principal as I know how uncomfortable it makes me (6ft 4in) when people in front do it.

[Melfuzz]

Being that tall you should ask for a bulkhead space.

My ex was 6'4 and they moved us to an exit row no problems because of his height.

[bawden2]

I never fully recline mine and i always put mine up right for meals. But people also need to consider that the person in front may have a medical condition that requires them to be reclined. My daughter does not have the ability to sit upright so she needs her seat to be reclined.
Does this mean she is being rude to the person behind her. I think sometimes if people took the time to ask then they would understand. She does not riggle around and she does not kick the seat in front of her. My biggest hate when parents completley ignore a child that is kicking the chair infront.
If she were not to have the seat reclined then she could not go on holiday. Who are we to deprive people of this.
Sorry if anyone takes offence as none meant just to make people think. :shrug:

[Kitten]

we flew with BMI this year, and were really lucky on the plane coming home, onlu 1/3 of the seats were filled, so we had freedom to move around, and find seats where we could recline and not disturb anyone.

I acctulay had a huge problem with the passanger in front of me this year, and I wish now that I had said somthing, their seat was reclined during the entire flight, and I couldn't move at all. I have problems with my knees, and their seat was right on my knees, and I am only 5'3. And to make matters worse I had the child from h*ll sat behind me.

[welshjim22]

Got to say reclining your seat is where a bit of common sense needs applying. last yeat i flew back from Orlando and everyone in front of me had reclined there seat because the one in front of them had upto the next bulkhead. The bloke in front of me had it reclined so far back the tv screen was almost unwatchable without reclining my seat fully which i found uncomfortable. You may pay for a reclining seat but it invades somebodies else's space when you do so and considering the lack of space i would always ask if it was an adult behind me. I always try for a bulkhead seat for this very reason.

[Catherine]

While we were on our way to Barbados last year, they guy infront of us reclined as soon as he got on and apart from take off never sat upright, he also fidgeted all the way moving from side to side and he had a massive trilby hat on too wedged on the top of his seat. The only good point is that we where in PE. I only recline my seat coming home just a tad so my neck stays ok. I am thinking of buying one of those squidgy cushsions for this years flight, its over an hour more than Orlando.

[Keith]

It goes both ways really.... I'm fairly tall and the reclining seat is the only way I could feel at all comfortable on the long flight. I tend to be curteous about when I do it, I dont just slam the seat back and tip someones drink over them :) and I always put the seat upright during meals.

BUT I've paid for the seat, reclining was part of the deal and I'm going to take advantage of it. I do agree that there's a domino effect down the plane because when the person in front of you reclines, you almost have to do the same to get your space back :( but that's just an unfortunate fact of life in cramped planes and at least if everyone does the same, everyone has the space to sleep.

[cm2k]

Personally I hate seat reclining - always have, I'm tall and don't enjoy flying and feel very squashed in when they do it.

My last flight from Orlando it was reclined 10secs after lift off, for the whole of the flight, until about 1 hour from the end, when i could not take the pain in my legs and the horrid cramptness anymore, so when he put it up by accident on the way to the loo, I wedged my kness under the tray, blocking the reclining ability :wacko: For the first time I could talk to my partner in comfort, and could move my legs about.

I never recline my seat, I believe it to be rude and unnessacary personally.:hehe:

On the same holiday outbound flight, I was asked politely by the person in front if her mother could recline it, she saw I was tall and only went back a bit to make sure we were both happy - that i didn't mind and really appreciated the concern :)

Going PE next time to try and avoid it on my next flight.

[justine]

A few years ago we sat 1 row after the bulkhead seats on a flt coming back the person on the bulhead reclined the seat infront of my dh who had our dd on his knee (she was an inf so had no seat) we looked at who was on the the seat and it as a woman around 5ft her legs were stretched out infront of her due to being on the bulkhead, and my dh had his knees under his chin and our dd sat on top of his head. So we exercised some parental responsiblity and let dd play with the womans hair for a while quickly followed by the words no don't do that darling a number of times (we were pushing her hands over the seat so she could get a good grip) the man on the other side with his girlfriend was nearly crying laughing. :lol: And result she got the message and put her chair upright.:woohoo:

I would like to point out this is not my dd usual behaviour but we did make her do it. And small lady who felt you needed legroom if you are reading this I'm sorry.

[Whitequeen]

The lady may have been disabled. That is usually the reason adults without babies are allocated bulkhead.:unsure:

[justine]

I'm not that mean she had just paid for them -on most charter flight anyone can pay

[triciacarole]

Justine the disability may not have been obvious, DD has arthritis in her knees and needs the bulkhead seats so she can stretch out her legs to stop them from stiffening up, her condition is not visible to others though.

[clio]

Some airlines (eg American) allow passengers with frequent flyer status to select exit/bulkhead seats at no cost. This is quite a benefit, especially on transatlantic flights. It certainly keeps me 'loyal' to the airline.

Mr C

42000 miles flown Jan 1-Feb 28 and counting...not sure if I'm coming or going...

[Vikki]

I thought you had to put the seat upright during meals.........

[Keith]

I would like to point out this is not my dd usual behaviour but we did make her do it. And small lady who felt you needed legroom if you are reading this I'm sorry.

We have a policy here of being nice to each other, so I'm taking a deep breath before I write this, but I'd pretty much burst if I didn't reply so :)

a) you don't know what that woman's situation was... she could have needed to stretch out her legs for a medical condition (my wife does)
b) even if she'd paid for that advantage, she was entitled to the benefit without being pestered by a child.
c) I'm sorry, but what a shocking example to set to a child.. in my opinion, it wasn't parental responsibility, it was parental irresponsibility. I bet you'd have been the first to complain if the lady had turned round and shouted at the child.

I understand your frustration at being scrunched up :( the seat sizes are just silly :( but there are adult ways to go about fixing it? Talk to the lady and ask if she could not recline ALL the way. Ask the stewardess if there's another seat you could have?

It's incidents like that which make me campaign for airport lounges without kids, and plane classes without kids. Of course it means I'm discriminating against responsible parents who don't encourage their children to assault other passengers :(

I don't know you and have no wish to insult you, but I'd urge you not to boast about such behaviour in a public place, you may get a few people laughing but I'm sure the vast majority of reasonable people would think it's absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

[Keith]

I thought you had to put the seat upright during meals.........

I'm not sure it's an absolute rule (if it's not, it should be), but at the very very least its curtesy and I'd have zero problem with people being told to put their seats up during meals

[PaulaK]

When our child was under 2 we paid for a seat for her as we knew room would be an issue. :)

[susieh]

gosh there are some heated views here aren't there.

I think i can understand your frustration at being squashed and some people are just plain inconsiderate and recline 'cos they can' (my DH being one of the latter much to my embarrassment).

I do think the stewardess should have spoken to the lady or to you if there was a reason for her reclining so much. I do think the lady could have said something if she had a problem and needed to recline but equally others will say you could have asked her to put the seat up a bit. It's hard to say who was right/wrong as none of us were there and if she had spoken to you before she did it maybe it would have been different.

I am so glad we are able to fly UC in June - I wont have to worry about DH annoying other passengers and I wont have to worry about smelly people or other 'undesirables'. However, if we end up with a family with nosiy kids in UC after we have paid all that money I will be the one annoying everyone with my complaining!

[triciacarole]

Nothing personal Justine, but on the whole I do think airlines should make toddlers have their own seats. I agree with you these seats are cramped and to have a child on your knee too makes it even worse. What does annoy me is that people with babies get priority for the bulkhead seats before the disabled.

I think that airline should take some seats out and charge a little extra for their seats and stop trying to cram in too many passengers. :shrug:. Rant over :blush:

[AlecK]

People recline because they have paid for seats that offer a recline option and they are perfectly entitled to use it as they wish. It isn't AFAIK compulsory to have your seat upright at meals as it is for landing and takeoff but agree that it would be good manners to do so. :)

[Vikki]

Ah right, I seem to remember on a flight aggggggges ago there was an announcement during the meal time for people to "please place their seats in the upright position". However, this was a very long time ago, perhaps it was just that particular airline, and come to think of it, I haven't heard of it again since.........so maybe I should be quiet now :blush: :D

[benjones70]

People who recline their seats are just selfish, plain as.

[triciacarole]

I'm hiding :runaway:

[JuniorMickey]

People who recline their seats are just selfish, plain as.
I don't understand this comment as I bought the seat, it has the ability to recline. If I choose to do so, that is my right :shrug:

[bawden2]

I have a disabled daughter and we would not be able to take her on holiday if we could not recline her seat. I also think the disabled should be the first to be allocated bulk head seats. Have you ever tried to squeeze a 14 year old in to these airline seats. We can not always have uc (not that i could afford it anyway) as majority of the time it is upstairs and disabled are not allowed up there. I once flew on a Ryanair flight and the seats did not recline, lets put it this way the flight lasted 55 minutes and they were the worst ever.
Alot of people think if someone is in a wheelchair its just because they can not walk but this is not always the truth. My DD can not sit unaided so reclining is the only way.
When i last flew home with FC from Orlando i had my DD layed across her seat and her legs over mine. We we were both enjoying a few zzzzzzzzz when the rude man in front did not just recline he rammed his chair back and caught my DD legs. She cried and he just looked back to say shut her up :club:. I always make the person behind my DD aware that i have to recline her and explain why.
I also blame the airlines if FC can remove a roll of seats to give more leg room than the rest should follow. They try to squeeze in as many as they can to get more money.

[joanne]

If people weren't meant to be able to recline seats, they wouldn't be made to be able to recline, plain as.

I for one, due to health problems, need room to stretch my legs out, and also find it very uncomfortable to sit in an upright position for so long, and therefore need to recline my seat. I usually only recline it part way as I'm aware of the person behind. But I'd have every right to recline fully should I choose to do so.

On my flight in economy last year I had to suffer the person in front of me fully recline his seat for more or less the whole 9 hour journey. It made it extremely uncomfortable for me and I was annoyed, but I didn't do anything about it as it was his right to recline.

It works both ways.

[bawden2]

Reclining when eating meals is sometimes allowed due to the discretion of the crew. They always allow my daughter to keep her seat in reclining position. They have even allowed her for take off, landing and really bad turbulence.
If we were not allowed to recline then they would not put this facility in.:whistle:

[clio]

I agree - you have a right to recline if you want to but you should show some consideration for the person behind you. The worst I have seen is people who sit upright in their seat so that they can eat their meal, but don't bring the seat back upright so the person behind them can enjoy theirs.

[justine]

I'm hiding :runaway:



Well you cant cos that position is already occupied by me!:sofa:

Please can I come out now :blink: I didn't mean to offend anyone and I consider myself well and truly told :tut: :club:

[triciacarole]

No worries Justine :hug:

[Keith]

Well you cant cos that position is already occupied by me!:sofa:

Please can I come out now :blink: I didn't mean to offend anyone and I consider myself well and truly told :tut: :club:

please come ouuuuttttttt! hiding behind the sofa is my job :>

It's an awkward topic :( always has been

[bawden2]

No harm done Justine. Its good to rant sometimes. We all still like you.

[justine]

Thanks :cartwheel

[Jenna]

Years ago on a night flight back from Eqypt my seat was in the row in front of the emergency exit and so it did not recline. It was the worst flight I've ever had, it's near impossible to relax and get some sleep sitting up and because of the position I was in I woke up not being able to feel my legs which was just terrifying!! After that I am incredible grateful that plane seats do recline but at the same time I am still conscious of the person behind me, I won't ram it back all the way or during meals but at the same time I want to be comfy.

[plutomad]

People who recline their seats are just selfish, plain as.

I cant see how?
On a long flight to Orlando that can take up to 9 hours i can't even begin to think of sitting up straight for that length on time. If i have paid for the seat and am considerate to the person behind me how can i be selfish? I always put my seat up straight whilst having a meal/drink/snack and also get my children to do the same. This time we as a family (7 of us) are flying via virgin PE and have paid nearly £1500 per adult for our holiday if i want to recline my seat because i am tired i will, as long as i do this considerately and slowly i will. My husband who has a spine injury will more than likely keep his seat upright but as my and my children cannot sleep sitting upright unlike you we will recline as and when is necessary.
But i cannot understand where the selfish part comes in? Isnt it our human right to be sitting comfortabley??

[joanne]

Isnt it our human right to be sitting comfortabley??

It certainly is :yes:
I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone who has flown to Orlando and truthfully never reclined their seat, even a tiny bit :shrug:

[Slowhand]

I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone who has flown to Orlando and truthfully never reclined their seat, even a tiny bit :shrug:
I made sure that you were sleeping before I reclined mine on the way out last year Jo. [Just so you wouldn`t notice.:lol: ]...also because I didn`t relish the thought of a slap on my head!:rotfl:

[Dawn]

On a long flight to Orlando that can take up to 9 hours i can't even begin to think of sitting up straight for that length on time.

:overhere:

Me! :lol: I have problems with my lower back and it's more comfortable for me to sit upright.

There's always one awkward one. :rotfl:

[Whitequeen]

Make that 2...........and it would be you and me.:lol: I've never reclined, but that's my choice. If I recline in April, that too will be my choice.:)

[PaulT]

I never recline either, perhaps the airlines should split the cabin seats recline section/non-recline section and maybe give a price reduction for the non-recline because they may well be able to cram even more seats in :eek:

[katie]

I must admit that I don't recline outbound 'cos I've got so much to do - papers, mags, movies book etc. However, on the way back, I recline as soon as the meal is over & try & sleep most of the way back. I don't really mind if the person in front reclines, as long as they realise, that I cannot get out of my seat without holding on to their seat back - it's just not possible!

Katie :)

[benjones70]

Recline in front of me and you'll know about it.

[triciacarole]

Recline in front of me and you'll know about it.

OK, when are you going and what seats are you in? :lol:

[plutomad]

Recline in front of me and you'll know about it.

can i ask what do you mean by that? or are you joking and just winding people up?

If someone does recline there seats in front of you what do you do?

[triciacarole]

He's winding us all up :shrug: :)

[benjones70]

can i ask what do you mean by that? or are you joking and just winding people up?

If someone does recline there seats in front of you what do you do?

I find the best way is to jam your knees into the back of their chair forcefully until they get the message. Being 6ft 3in this is quite easy to do and also being 6ft 3in means they soon get the message when they turn round.

[PaulaK]

Okay, think it's about time to calm things down. If you cannot discuss this sensibly, the thread will be closed. :)

[plutomad]

Okay, think it's about time to calm things down. If you cannot discuss this sensibly, the thread will be closed. :)

thank god for sound reasoning:D

[benjones70]

Okay, think it's about time to calm things down. If you cannot discuss this sensibly, the thread will be closed. :)

I am discussing it sensibly. I have as much right to legroom as anyone else on that plane, I pay the same amount and so I shouldn't have to put up with people reclining their seats and restricting the little legroom I had in the first place.

[AlecK]

It is not being sensible discussing digging knees into the back of other peoples seats which they have paid for and offer a recline option in that price. Neither is saying you would intimidate someone who turns round to discuss it with you.

[JuniorMickey]

And I pay for a seat that reclines :shrug: If I choose to use this feature that's my choice. It isn't the person sitting in front of you's fault that you're tall.

[benjones70]

It is not being sensible discussing digging knees into the back of other peoples seats which they have paid for and offer a recline option in that price. Neither is saying you would intimidate someone who turns round to discuss it with you.

It is virtually impossible not to dig my knees into them, if I choose to recline I have a look round first and make sure I haven't got a tall person behind me. Even if I haven't I would ask if it was ok. And I never said I would intimidate someone, you made that bit up.

[triciacarole]

Oh dear this is a problem :nono:
Perhaps Ben you should ask the airline for exit seats as it appears that the problem is with them not giving everyone enough room :shrug:

[benjones70]

Oh dear this is a problem :nono:
Perhaps Ben you should ask the airline for exit seats as it appears that the problem is with them not giving everyone enough room :shrug:

Unfortunately most charge you extra for exit seats, a tax on tall people.:D

[triciacarole]

Those greedy airlines again :rolleyes:

[Redkop]

Unfortunately most charge you extra for exit seats, a tax on tall people.:D
ben being over 6ft tall, it never bothers me, i quite happily stand for some of the flight,

[benjones70]

Those greedy airlines again :rolleyes:

Used to be you could just turn up really early and get them for free, soon got rid of that when they realised what they could charge, I'm sure some charge over £100 for a return now.

Sorry for my replies on this anyway folks.:)

[Vikki]

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one guys :lol:

[welshjim22]

It is amazing how people claim they paid for a reclining seat o they will use it forgetting the person behind paid for a seat too and expected a certain amount of space personally i don't think people bought the seats because they recline.

[ukwdwnut]

i can see the point of people saying they dont like people that recline, but as i see it if you are more comfortable in a reclined position on a 9 hr flight then you are well within your rights to do so, i myself recline but not fully, only 1 or 2 notches so to speak and on a 9 hr flight i am way more comfortable than sitting bolt upright the whole flight :)

whether the reclining option is paid for or not its there for the use of.

[ukwdwnut]

Recline in front of me and you'll know about it.


sorry ben you cant stop people reclining if they so wish

[benjones70]

I think i've said too much already on this subject.

Sorry folks, I'm a bit embarrassed about all this.

[ukwdwnut]

no need to be ben were all "frends" here, i just posted something taken the wrong way on another thread :shrug:

[benjones70]

Slightly in my defence, my other great love is posting on a Soccer forum and things get extremely heated on there. Need to remembere where I am I think!

[triciacarole]

:hug: no worry Ben :)

[Keith]

Slightly in my defence, my other great love is posting on a Soccer forum and things get extremely heated on there. Need to remembere where I am I think!

Ahhh that explains it ;-)

Actually I know someone (not redkop ;-) who posts on the official lfc forum and I was pretty shocked at how heated stuff gets on there!!!! So I can imagine it's hard to change pace coming back here.

[Redkop]

Ahhh that explains it ;-)

Actually I know someone (not redkop ;-) who posts on the official lfc forum and I was pretty shocked at how heated stuff gets on there!!!! So I can imagine it's hard to change pace coming back here.
i dont use the official one as they have shut it down during certain hours :D

[triciacarole]

When I've look at other forums - (not other Disney ones - I am loyal to you lot :)) I am amazed a how rude some people can be - not saying that you were rude Ben.

[Dawn]

Nothing to add.

Just wanted to get the 100th post. :blush:

[triciacarole]

Thats 101 I'm 100 :lol:
...off to dry my hair.

[benjones70]

Ahhh that explains it ;-)

Actually I know someone (not redkop ;-) who posts on the official lfc forum and I was pretty shocked at how heated stuff gets on there!!!! So I can imagine it's hard to change pace coming back here.

You'd be amazed. I suppose football is a very emotional subject, but then so is Disney.:lol:

[ukwdwnut]

When I've look at other forums - (not other Disney ones - I am loyal to you lot :)) I am amazed a how rude some people can be - not saying that you were rude Ben.


i did register elsewhere on another disney board, to keep in touch with a couple of people but stopped using it as there were too many arguements, then a certain person got banned from there, they all came here, now they have all disapppeared again to a new board. so now im like you i just use this board its by far the best anyway :yes:

[benjones70]

I should point out to UK readers that my football team is Wolves, so we have plenty to moan and swear about on that board!!!

[Chris/Lisa]

You should be on the Southampton boards mate :cry:

[Redkop]

You should be on the Southampton boards mate :cry:
there there mate

[Chris/Lisa]

Maybe I should set up a thread in 'Serious Matters' :cry:

[Whitequeen]

Maybe I should set up a thread in 'Serious Matters' :cry:
Maybe you shouldn't.:unsure:

[Dawn]

I should point out to UK readers that my football team is Wolves,

:laughat:

[benjones70]

You should be on the Southampton boards mate :cry:

I bet they're good fun.:rotfl:

[Slowhand]

I should point out to UK readers that my football team is Wolves, so we have plenty to moan and swear about on that board!!!
Think yourself lucky that you are not a Port Vale supporter like me them Ben!:lol:
Despite the influence of Robbie Williams!:lol:

[Vikki]

Think yourself lucky that you are not a Port Vale supporter like me them Ben!:lol:
Despite the influence of Robbie Williams!:lol:

Good grief, was getting bored with all the football talk then.........and suddenly woke up at the very mention of my lovely Robbie :wink:

[Slowhand]

Good grief, was getting bored with all the football talk then.........and suddenly woke up at the very mention of my lovely Robbie :wink:
Yeah, in case you hadn`t heard Vikki, he has now [finally] invested around £260K into the club which is a huge amount of money for them...but not for him though!

[triciacarole]

Good grief, was getting bored with all the football talk then.........and suddenly woke up at the very mention of my lovely Robbie :wink:

I knew you would pick up on that Vikki, just did not expect it quiet so soon :lol:

[plutomad]

The thread has been derailed then:)

[Jenna]

Good grief, was getting bored with all the football talk then.........and suddenly woke up at the very mention of my lovely Robbie :wink:

Ha ha, me too Vikki!! :lol:

[Whitequeen]

The thread has been derailed then:)
Oh yeah, I think it's safe to say that.:lol:

[benjones70]

Think yourself lucky that you are not a Port Vale supporter like me them Ben!:lol:
Despite the influence of Robbie Williams!:lol:

I had a horrible experience at Port Vale once involving lots of police and a long walk back to the car.

[Chris/Lisa]

I had a pie at Port vale one that had a vein in it

[Dawn]

My brother says the best pies are at Old Trafford wherever that is. :shrug:

[Breeze]

I had a pie at Port vale one that had a vein in it

I so don't want to hear details and besides don't you have a trip report to write luv :huh:

[Dawn]

No time for trip reports - there's threads need derailing. :hyper:

[Slowhand]

I had a pie at Port vale one that had a vein in it
You were lucky....normally they charge extra for that!:lol:

[Vikki]

Yeah, in case you hadn`t heard Vikki, he has now [finally] invested around £260K into the club which is a huge amount of money for them...but not for him though!

Oh I know, as soon as I hear Robbie's name mentioned on the news, I take notice. I'm pleased he's done it, I'm just surprised he didn't do it sooner. I remember about 12 years ago (can't believe it was that long) watching a Take That video where Robbie was at Port Vale saying how he'd love to have the money to be more involved one day :)

And Tricia, at least I'm a person of habit, totally predictable :wink:

[triciacarole]

And Tricia, at least I'm a person of habit, totally predictable :wink:

:lol:

[ukwdwnut]

My brother says the best pies are at Old Trafford wherever that is. :shrug:


pies at old trafford are you sure, i thought they only served up shrimp sarnies :wink:

[benjones70]

pies at old trafford are you sure, i thought they only served up shrimp sarnies :wink:

They do a Balti pie at a lot of grounds now which is fantastic.

Someone going to explain to the U.S. people what a Balti is?:lol:

[triciacarole]

Well Balti's not British and we know what it is :)

[benjones70]

Well Balti's not British and we know what it is :)

It's more or less British, I think you'll struggle to find a Balti if you go to India or Pakistan.

[triciacarole]

Really, I thought it was an Indian dish, very nice one at that...:)

[benjones70]

Really, I thought it was an Indian dish, very nice one at that...:)

Only in the same way that Chicken Tikka Massala is.

[triciacarole]

Well there you go Ben, you have increased my curry knowledge :lol:

[Vikki]

.............mmmmmm, Indian :)

[Dawn]

Mmmmm, curry. :eat:

[triciacarole]

Going for one tomorrow for DH's Birthday :D

[benjones70]

Keep away from the Chicken Tikka Massala then, enough food colouring in most of them to slay a small elephant!

[triciacarole]

I don't even know what we get, we just order the banquet and its all yummy :D

[benjones70]

I don't even know what we get, we just order the banquet and its all yummy :D

The banquet? You don't get that at my local, infact you don't get cutlery unless you ask.:lol:

[disney_chick]

We were stuck behind some extremely rude people who insisted on reclining their seats for the duration of the flight to Orlando a few years ago. 9 hours of torture. Virgin Atlantic has since lost our custom as there is simply not enough room in the cabin and our complaint for this problem was completely ignored.

[ukwdwnut]

i just love a chicken madras :D mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[triciacarole]

:eat: Just got back and it was very nice indeed :D