Fantasia/Fantasia 2000

[Vikki]

I haven't seen either of these and wanted to get one of them, so my question is...what's the difference?

[SorcererMickey]

Concept is the same for both... Experimental animation set to classical music.

IMO the original is the best, it was really experimental, they tried things not done before, the music, animation, themes, the surrealism, thanks to Walt Disney's friendship with Salvador Dali who also was a favorite of many of the original "Nine Old Men", the original Disney animators, Les Clark, Marc Davis, Ollie Johnston, Milt Kahl,Ward Kimball, Eric Larson, John Lounsbery, Wolfgang "Woolie" Reitherman, Frank Thomas.

It helped Disney animators take the medium years ahead. Pinocchio, Dumbo, Peter Pan, Cinderella, they are all the product of what Disney animators learned by doing Fantasia.

Fantasia 2000 is also incredible. What is revolutionary about it is the introduction of CGI. We now take computer animation for granted, but when F2000 was being done, it was a new tool. Disney was trying to learn how to use, combine and experiment with CGI and traditional animation. At the time nobody knew that CGI would just take over the medium of feature animation. But Disney combined them beautifuly in F2000.

Which one, I would say watch them both. They are both incredible.

[neil@disney]

Thanks for that SM! I never really understood what Fantasia was really about. I've seen bits of it but I'm gonna give it another go.

[SorcererMickey]

You have to :yes:. Any true Disney lover should sit down and see these.

Snow White was incredible, the first full length animated feature, but Fantasia and later Pinocchio are true masterpieces. It's hard to find anything after that compares. It's as if everything that could be done with the animation medium was done in those two.

[neil@disney]

I think I've seen just about every other Disney film, just not Fantasia.

Soon fix that though..... :D

[ukwdwnut]

I think I've seen just about every other Disney film, just not Fantasia.

Soon fix that though..... :D


thats the one film ive seen so far, that i just dont like at all. never seen it out on dvd yet tho, we have it on video that i could put onto dvd for the kids tho

[Vikki]

Right, off to search ebay :)

[uscwest]

We have them both and while, as SM says the concept is the same they are both unique and well worth owning/watching.

[tajainaz]

Love Fantasia! It's one of the few videos I own! Toscanini was the conductor, if I remember correctly. Of the original, of course!

[SorcererMickey]

Close with the name :yes: . I had actually forgotten the name since the conductor's name and one of the composer's piece's used are similar.

From Amazon.com:

"Leopold Stokowski and the Philadelphia Orchestra provided the music for eight segments by the composers Tchaikovsky, Moussorgsky, Stravinsky, Beethoven, Ponchielli, Bach, Dukas and Schubert."

From Filmsite.org:

"Fantasia (1940), a Disney animated feature-length "concert" film milestone, is an experimental film integrating eight magnificent classical musical compositions with enchanting, exhilarating, and imaginative, artistically-choreographed animation. The conceptual framework of the individual pieces embraces such areas as prehistoric times, the four seasons, nature, ****/heaven, the themes of light vs. darkness and chaos vs. order, dancing animals, classical mythology, and legend."

[tajainaz]

Thanks, SM! I was too lazy to look it up!

Toscanini conducted the NBC orchestra. :doh: